Smith: Edna Eliza (m. Ollivier)

Daughter of Adoniram "Nide" Warner Smith and Alice Maria Pennell.

Born May 17, 1905 in Rutherglen, Nipissing, Ontario, Canada. Died Feb 14, 1994 in North Bay,
Nipissing Dist., ON, Can (88 years, 8 months). Married Clifford Charles Ollivier Jan 10,
1928 in Rutherglen, Nipissing, Ontario, Canada.

Edna Ollivier

Edna was baptized into St. Margaret's Anglican Church by the Rev. Gordon Postlethwaite.
She was the only child of Nide and Alice Smith to complete high school and continue to
receive her Teaching Certificate. One of her first positions was likely in Earlton, ON. She
could also play piano. When Vera Hughes (Smith) died after giving birth, Edna and Cliff
adopted the baby (Randy). The Ollivier's lived in Northern Ontario for about 40 years,
including Ramore (1949) and Iroquois Falls (1950). She taught in Porquois Junction,
Noranda (1959) and Rutherglen (Principal, 1968).

The Olliviers owned a cottage on Kaibuskong Bay (off the Mattawa River/Lake Talon) that
was only accessible via boat, at the time, from the now Lake Talon Marina. Later they would
purchase a cottage further west on the bay from Dr. McLaren and convert it into a beautiful
4-bedroom 2-story home. It had white siding and maroon shutters and two fireplaces: one
on the main level and the other in a huge bedroom on the second level, which later would
be the bedroom of my Grandfather. The home had three garages: one attached to the
house through a breezeway; one perpedicular to the attached garage; and one close to the
lake where all the fishing rods, tackle, minnow nets, life jackets, water skis and water toys
were stored. Later, Cliff built a "Y" shaped dock and had two boats. The "old" cottage was
then used/purchased by Edna's daughter, Dorothy and became known to me as the
Mawhiney Cottage.

Edna was a skilled seamstress and quilter. She was a member of the Eastern Star, the
Women's Institute (WI) and St. Margaret's Anglican Church.

When they both retired and the home on Kaibuskong Bay became too much, they sold it
and moved to a condo/townhome in Calender, Ontario. After Cliff's stroke, he was moved into a
nursing home in North Bay and Edna lived alone for a time. However, they eventually were
brought together again in a double room at the nursing home (Leisure World).

The Ollivier House

Going to Aunt Edna and Uncle Cliff’s house was like going to a mansion. Their house was huge and was on Lake Talon, down the Pine Lake Road. It had a huge living/dining room with a big wood burning fireplace. The TV was in this room and Grampa Smith, who lived there at the time, had his own chair beside the fireplace and would watch The Edge of Night, his favourite soap opera. His pipe supplies and can of humbugs sat of the right side of the fireplace’s mantle.

There were two huge, massive bedrooms upstairs and two smaller, but still large bedrooms in the main floor. Grampa’s bedroom was upstairs and so was Randy’s. Randy also had his drums set up in his room.

We went to Aunt Edna’s often at Christmas, likely because Grampa was there. The food spread was amazing. Her signature peanut butter balls, plus other standards filled the table. And then there was Skipper, their dog, always ready to eat anything that hit the floor. Wayne even threw the dog candy wrappers which Skipper ate quickly. Skipper was a black terrier, like a Scotty dog.

I remember once going to Aunt Edna’s after I had attended a birthday party at Dianne McLaren’s. I had stuffed my face with “black babies,” a black liquorish jellied candy. While sitting in Aunt Edna’s big spacious luxurious living room chair, at the far end of the room, as far as I could have been from the toilet, I felt suddenly sick to my stomach. Jumping up and running to the bathroom did not prevent me from puking diagonally across the living rug, through the kitchen, finally getting to the bathroom. I was so embarrassed.

Janice Mawhiney was often there too. She is the grand daughter of Aunt Edna, daughter of Dorothy Mawhiney. The Mawhiney’s had a cottage east, down the lake a piece. I think you could drive there, but we always boated there. More about the Mawhiney cottage later. At Aunt Edna’s, Janice knew how to get into the attic, and we would sometimes sneak into this “secret” door and play there.

Usually when Janice was there, so was Tippy. Tippy was the Mawhiney’s dog, a black and white border-collie type dog. We’d have great fun with both Tippy and Skipper

In the summer, there was usually a mosquito coil burning in the corner of the kitchen. There was a little summer-type room that connected one of the two garages to the house. I loved to sit in this room. Outside of it was a cover double swing that faced a beautiful green lawn, huge spruce trees and then the lake. It was so peaceful and beautiful.

At the lake was another garage that smelled of wooden boats, boat motors, fishing rods, life jackets, fishing nets, fishing hooks… smelled like summer. I love the smell of that garage. They had everything in there that a kid could use to have a ball at the lake. Wayne and I would fish from the dock and fill up pails with sunfish, pike and tadpoles, and then throw them all back. We used a big minnow net to catch minnows and an aluminum bait pail with a holed lid to catch frogs. We pulled hooks out of fish's mouths and felt bad when the hooks went through their eye sockets.

We swam on the right side of the dock, as the left side was mucky. There were occasional blood suckers, but not many. When we’d run and jump of the end of the dock, Skipper was at our heels, trying to nip your legs as you careened off the end.

Aunt Edna’s flower garden was as amazing as Mom's. She seemed to have flowers everywhere around the house and rock flower garden which edged the forest across the front lawn from the side door (which served as their “front” door).

Uncle Cliff has a wood motorboat, that was brown stained and shiny shellacked. I don’t remember going on the boat very much for joy rides, however we would boat east along the lake to the Mawhiney’s cottage. Before Uncle Cliff and Aunt Edna had the big fancy house, this was their cottage.

Smith: Adoniram “Nide” Warner

Alice & Adoniram "Nide" Smith

My grandfather, Adoniram Warner Smith (b. 1880), known to most as "Nide".   His life from birth to death may not have seemed note-worthy to him but for me, it has been an adventure. He was born around the time Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday were facing off on Fremont Street in Tombstone, Arizona, with Ike Clanton.

I began researching Nide shortly after my father died in 1988. Thirty-four years later (OMG - has it been that long??), Grampa's life proved that nothing was for sure and that every rabbit hole I went down was likely the wrong one.  Ultimately, DNA proved that the descendants of Adoniram are not of the Smith clan (English Protestants), but of the Aughney clan (Irish Catholics) (Oh My!). 

However, DNA cannot answer questions that have nothing to do with genetics: thoughts and motives.

Why did Leah not register Grampa's birth when she registered two prior illegitimate births?

Why did Leah name my grandfather -- first-name, second-name (Adoniram Warner Smith b. 1835) -- after the first cousin of her husband when he wasn't the father?  Did she think he was the father?

One distinctive thing about Grampa Smith was his hazel eyes, the same eye colour as my Dad, the same eye colour as my niece, Amy-Lynne Kosick.

Posts about Adoniram

  • Aughney
    My sister Carol's DNA with 23andMe showed a biological 3rd or 4th cousin connection to a Linda Munroe who reached out to Carol to make a connection. Linda's grandfather was Patrick O'Reilly and great-grandparents were Mary Jane & Hugh O'Reilly.  The O'Reilly's lived in Osceola, Ontario.  Patrick was born in Cobden, Ontario.  These communities are within 20 miles of Haley Station where Grampa Smith was born. Mary Jane Aughney and Hugh O'Reilly's son, Patrick has an uncanny resemblance to my Grampa Smith.DNA shows that the common ancestor between Carol and Linda Munroe is 3 to 4 generations, or… Read more: Aughney
  • Other Illegitmate Births of Leah Eady
    The 1st document above shows the birth of John Richardson, illegitimate, December 31, 1869. Then the 2nd document shows John Richardson Jr.'s death, March 22, 1870 of whooping cough. Its interesting the death beside John Richardson Jr.'s is Mary Ecfort (Eckfort). This is Leah's sister who died 4 days prior of TB which she'd had for a year. Above is Leah's 2nd illegitimate son born April 11, 1873 without a name. Leah's Aunt Annie is the "accouchure" (midwife) and her mother is the "informant". I searched through all the 1881 Horton Township census, looking for an 8-year-old. Below… Read more: Other Illegitmate Births of Leah Eady
  • Illegitimacy Revealed
    I received this letter from Florence Eagle, March 5, 1992.  Florence was the daughter of Thomas Henry Smith, son of Philander and Ann Smith, thought to be a half-brother of Adoniram. Of particular interest, and shock at the time, was this: Your grandfather is not a blood brother of my Father, Henry Smith. ... Grandads 3rd wife ... No 3 came to work for Grandad bring[ing] a little boy with her who was later your Grandad. ... When your Grandad was very young he also took on the name Smith. When I asked my aunt about this (can't… Read more: Illegitimacy Revealed
  • Horton Twp. 1891 & 1901 Census
    H. Thomas Smith is Henry (Florence Eagle's father). He is the "Head" of the household as Philander died in 1900. Admiram is Adoniram.  Possible error in his birthdate of Feb 19, as we always celebrated Feb 18. Orin and Julia are twins. Orin never married.  Julia married William Scobie. E. George is actually Georgina.  The only birth AFTER the marriage of Leah and Philander. Georgina married her cousin, Walter Eady.  They later divorced. Philander's marriage to Leah was delayed for legal reasons.  He promised to marry Mary Jamieson, the daughter of Mary Eady, Leah's first cousin.  It seems… Read more: Horton Twp. 1891 & 1901 Census
  • Gossip from Hazel Eady
     In my search to find answers to my grandfather's heritage, I became somewhat of a "penpal" with Hazel Eady.  She became my spy into the Eady clan of Horton Township.  So Hazel set about attempting to find out information about Leah and my grandfather.  The mystery continues to this day - where did the nickname "Nide" come from?
  • Nide – Even a Mystery in Death
    UPDATED: February 2024 - See recent comments There are a couple of different accounts of Grampa's passing.  Hazel Eady passed along, in a 1992 letter, that the gossip was out there, that Grampa confessed on his death bed that he did not have his "proper name". So while the "death bed" confession as been de-bunked, a confession did take place on the eve of Aunt Edna's and Uncle Cliff's wedding. Then there's my brother's memory of what he heard: Grandpa died with his pants halfway pulled up. He was getting dressed in the morning and didn't finish. (Guess… Read more: Nide – Even a Mystery in Death
  • Rutherglen Rural Telephone Company
    February 17, 2012 - Email to Bell Canada from me. Hello, On February 10, 1921, my grandfather A. W. Smith bought 22 shares at $5.00 each in the Rutherglen Rural Telephone Company, Limited (Ontario).  This rural telephone company would have been bought by Bell Telephone. What happened to these shares?  Are they still valid? Thank you for looking into this for me. Wendy Smith February 20, 2012 Email from investor.relations@bell.ca Good afternoon! Thank you for your email.  No, those old certificates are no longer valid.  Bell bought hundreds of rural companies 40-50 years ago.  In most cases, shareholders… Read more: Rutherglen Rural Telephone Company
  • The Old Reliable
    "The old reliable on a Sunday morning" is written on the back of this photo. To date this picture, I zoomed in on the license plate and Googled "Ontario License Plates" which resulted in the image behind the photo. With this, I was able to date the picture to 1922. Also note, when I zoomed in on the license, over the back wheel, there are two little faces I hadn't seen before.  This is the 1922 version of photo-bombing!!  I can only make an educated guess that these two little faces belong to Lloyd (my Dad) and Emmett.… Read more: The Old Reliable
  • Step-Brothers & Half-Siblings
    There are very few pictures of Grampa in the "early" days, without white hair and a mustache. So you might not recognize Grampa in this photograph believed to be taken at the funeral of his mother, Great-grandma, Leah Eady, who died May 28, 1924. When I found out that Grampa's biological father was not actually a Smith, it changed the way I looked at these pictures, now knowing that the half-siblings were really step-siblings. L-R: Henry (step), Emerson (Willard's son), Willard (step), Orin (half) and Grampa.  Henry, Willard and Orin are all sons of Philander Smith.  Henry's and… Read more: Step-Brothers & Half-Siblings
  • Nide and his Children
    "Rutherglen - in front of the farm house before it was sheeted in. Taken in 1915."  Dad, born in 1917,  isn't in the picture of course. Aunt Edna said that was a big deal as every time he saw the picture, he'd get angry because he thought he was in the house and no one called him out for the picture. This house would be our farm house.  The thin sapling behind Aunt Edna's shoulder became a huge lovely tree that shaded and cooled the back yard on hot summer days. L-R: Chester, Georgina, Grampa, Elmo, Vera, Gramma,… Read more: Nide and his Children
  • Rahill Red Lake Mining Company Limited
    From Wayne: "Billy Hill got some money from Grandpa.  He was famous at the dances in Rutherglen because he would [become intoxicated] and step dance like crazy up on the stage.  Last time I saw him was at the Orange Lodge and he fell off the stage.  He sure could step dance.  He lived between Jackson's gas station and Westley Rose's grandma's in a tiny house."
  • A. W. Smith Memorabilia
    My Dad had a lot of memorabilia from my Grandfather and I also was able to save some from my Uncle Emmett's home as he inherited it from his parents. These are receipts from 1942 when my Grandfather sold cattle.
  • Gas Coupons
    When I found these, I wondered how Grampa Smith got the gas he would have needed to run his tractor.  But I then remembered that he likely used his team of horses.  In my memory, Dad had a team of horses - Duke & Bess - and only later had a tractor. However, in my wondering thoughts, I did found this on the internet: "If you were employed in a factory that supported the war effort, you were issued a “B” card, while doctors, nurses, farm and construction workers, and mail employees were issued a “C” card, each… Read more: Gas Coupons
  • My memory of Grampa Smith
    To me, Grampa was always "old". In 1960, when I would have my first memories of Grampa, he was 80. So, yes, he was old. Between 1960 and 1968 (the year we moved from Rutherglen to Porcupine), I remember going to Aunt Edna's house many times for many occasions and seeing Grampa. I don't remember him at our house, which had been his home for many years.
  • Smith: Lloyd George
    Lloyd was born June 17, 1917 to Adoniram Smith and Alice Pennell in Rutherglen, Ontario. He married my mother, Joan Gallson, on June 25, 1943 and they had 4 children. Dad died March 30, 1988. My Dad learned how to farm from his Dad. He went to a one-room school house, very close to our farm until grade 8. When Mom and Dad were first married, they lived with Dad's parents until Mom was pregnant with my oldest sister Donna. Then Mom pushed Dad to look for a home of their own. My Grandparents actually considered building another… Read more: Smith: Lloyd George
  • Smith: Georgena “Jo” Alice (m. Buchanan)
    Georgena was always known to all as "Jo". Jo was born September 3, 1912 to Adoniram Smith and Alice Pennell. She married Jacob "Jake" Buchanan, December 24, 1937, and had two sons, David and Keith. She died January 3, 2009 in North Bay, Ontario. At the time, Jo was working at [Eaton's] but she had been scheduled to be off on her wedding day. However, as luck would have it, she was asked to fill in for another staff member on that special day. She agreed, but said, "I have to be off by 6pm, because I'm getting… Read more: Smith: Georgena “Jo” Alice (m. Buchanan)
  • Smith: Vera Myrtle (m. Hughes)
    Vera was born April 14, 1910 and died October 11, 1951. Vera married Cyril Hughes in August 1950 and October 11 the following year, died of complications surrounding childbirth. Mom told me that they received news that a baby boy was born, and both mother and child were well. The story then says that Vera was left alone and hemorrhaged. I was told that Vera was a very warm and caring person. When her brother, Elmo, was killed March 1950, Vera made many trips to his widow and children, bringing clothes and food.
  • Smith: Chester Warner
    Chester was born July 16, 1908 and died October 17, 2001. He married Hazel Farmer. They had no children, the reason being (I was told) Chester had mumps as an older youth/man and was infertile. Hazel always called Uncle Chester, "Ches", and she's the only person that I remember calling him that. Their farm was right next (behind) to our farm. His farm was the original farm owned by Willard Smith, Grampa's step-brother. Uncle Chester and Aunt Hazel treated farming like a business, not a hobby. They invested in machinery that would give them better returns on their… Read more: Smith: Chester Warner
  • Smith: Elmo Adoniram
    Born January 3, 1907, Elmo was the 2nd child of Adoniram and Alice Smith. He married Marie Transborg and had 6 surviving children. In 1950, when the youngest, Danny, was only 2 years old, Elmo died in a farming accident. His wake was held at Andy Green's house.
  • Smith: Edna Eliza (m. Ollivier)
    Daughter of Adoniram "Nide" Warner Smith and Alice Maria Pennell. Born May 17, 1905 in Rutherglen, Nipissing, Ontario, Canada. Died Feb 14, 1994 in North Bay,Nipissing Dist., ON, Can (88 years, 8 months). Married Clifford Charles Ollivier Jan 10,1928 in Rutherglen, Nipissing, Ontario, Canada. Edna was baptized into St. Margaret's Anglican Church by the Rev. Gordon Postlethwaite.She was the only child of Nide and Alice Smith to complete high school and continue toreceive her Teaching Certificate. One of her first positions was likely in Earlton, ON. Shecould also play piano. When Vera Hughes (Smith) died after giving birth,… Read more: Smith: Edna Eliza (m. Ollivier)
  • Smith: Emmett Richard
    Emmett was born January 27, 1915, Rutherglen, Ontario and died March 24, 1990. He was the 2nd youngest son of Adoniram and Alice Smith. In the summer, Uncle Emmett helped Dad in running the farm as much as he could.  He'd often drive over his tractor to pull the plow or the seeder or the rake. While using the bailor, Dad and Uncle Emmett would take turns either driving the tractor or pulling the bails off the bailor and stacking them on the wagon.
  • Who Is Nide?
    The facts:Adoniram "Nide" Warner SmithBirth date: Feb 18, 1880, Haley Station, Ontario (not registered, just word of mouth date)Background (what I heard):  Grampa lived with Aunt Edna and Uncle Cliff.  It was determined that Grampa should be receiving the Old Age Pension.  When they applied, the government had no record of Grampa's birth, so there wasn't a way to prove he should be getting Old Age Pension.  At some point, the government allowed a "best guess" year to be submitted, which was 1880. Mother: Leah EadyBirth: 1848Background: No actual proof that Leah is Grampa's biological mother. Only stories… Read more: Who Is Nide?

Adoniram's Pedigree Chart

SMITH-Adoniram-pedigree

Pennell: Alice Maria (m. Smith)

It seems strange to say that I don't have a lot of information about my Grandmother Smith. There were certainly lots of people in my life who knew her well. Most of what I know came from my mother who did not get along with her and didn't have many good memories of her.

Alice was born April 5, 1876 in Horton Twp., Ontario. She married Adoniram Warner Smith April 13, 1904 in Rutherglen. She became a large woman as her children were born, but developed diabetes in her later years and lost her excess weight.

I was born in 1956, so I only have one memory of her and even that memory is only of her feet. She was sitting in a big arm chair and I was sitting on the floor at her feet colouring or drawing. She had black heeled shoes on. That's it.

Alice and Adoniram with their children before Lloyd's birth

She died April 29, 1959 at the home of her daughter, Georgena Buchanan, in North Bay and is buried at Terrace Lawn Cemetery.

I'm very certain that Aunty Jo and Uncle Jake are buried head-to-head with Alice and Adoniram. I recall Aunty Jo telling me, on a visit to Terrace Lawn Cemetery, that she had already bought and arranged for her and Uncle Jake to be buried in the "touching" plots. Logically, I'm not sure how she arranged this with the cemetery, but sure enough, if you visit Terrace Lawn, the "front" of the grave stone is marked with Alice and Adoniram's names, while the back of the same of stone is marked with Aunty Jo and Uncle Jake.

Alice & Adoniram Smith

Children of Adoniram and Alice Smith

Alice Pennell's Pedigree

Alice-Pennell-Pedigree-2023MAR

Joan Gallson – Gallery

Smith: Emmett Richard

Emmett Smith

Emmett was born January 27, 1915, Rutherglen, Ontario and died March 24, 1990. He was the 2nd youngest son of Adoniram and Alice Smith.

In the summer, Uncle Emmett helped Dad in running the farm as much as he could.  He'd often drive over his tractor to pull the plow or the seeder or the rake. While using the bailor, Dad and Uncle Emmett would take turns either driving the tractor or pulling the bails off the bailor and stacking them on the wagon.

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Hannah Smith’s Rabbit Hole

Hannah married Joseph Henry Peters on Christmas Day 1890.

Because Smith is such a popular name, its important to find a few collaborating pieces of evidence.  So addresses and occupations are important here.Joseph: 23 Walmer Road - Fa:Joseph Peters - Seaman (deceased by 1890)
Hannah: 21 Walmer Road - Fa: James Smith (b. 1843) - China Dealer; Hannah is 21 so b. 1869 (consistent)

Hannah Louisa Smith - born March 1, 1869, Kensington, Middlesex (London), England

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St. Thomas Psychiatric Hospital

St. Thomas Psychiatric Hospital - abandoned now, in St. Thomas, Ontario.

This website has LOTS of pictures of the hospital in its abandoned, run down, condition.

St. Thomas Psychiatric Hospital - Ontario Abandoned Places (talkingwallsphoto.com)

Interesting note on this webpage:  "January 2020 – Actor Jason Momoa intends to film a post-apocalyptic television show inside the former hospital. It will be titled ‘See’ and will be released on Apple TV."  My curling teammate's daughter, Shayla Brown, has gotten acting parts in this series.  Reading further on this, seems that because of COVID-19, the 2020 taping was postponed, so not sure if they ever filmed there.

Joan Gallson – The Teenager

Mom didn’t remember having any aspirations or dreams – only “to get the hell out of that house!” She consistently described her life as a child as horrible, filled with beatings and abuse by the hand of her stepmother who allegedly made unreasonable and impossible demands that could never be fulfilled.  Stories of sneaking food and eating raw potatoes because they were so hungry, never wanting to get caught doing anything they weren't supposed to do - all these things would result in beatings. Supposedly the children's aid was called by the school because of bruising on Mom's shoulders. A teacher gave Mom a pair of shoes because she came to school in bare feet. 

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